What does it take to escape the plotlines mapped onto us? Searching for clues in the work of her literary foremothers, Lipson untangles what it means to be a girl, a woman, a lover, a partner, a daughter, and a mother in a world all too ready to reduce us to stock characters. Whether she’s testing the fragile borders of fidelity, embracing the taboo power of female friendship, escaping her family for the solitude of the mountains, grappling with what to do with her frozen embryos, or letting go of the children she imagined for the ones she’s raising, Lipson pushes beyond the easy, surface stories we tell about ourselves to brave less certain territory. 

Mothers and Other Fictional Characters is a shimmering love letter to our forgotten selves—and the ones we’re still becoming.

Nicole Graev Lipson’s writing has been awarded a Pushcart Prize, selected for The Best American Essays anthology, and shortlisted for a National Magazine Award. Her work has appeared in numerous publications including the LA Review of Books, The Millions, Nylon, The Washington Post, and The Boston Globe. 

Nicole holds a BA from Cornell University and an MFA from Emerson College. Originally from New York City, she lives outside of Boston with her family.

In our conversation, we’ll talk about how Nicole reconnected with Jewish tradition (beginning with a book!), the vital importance of bringing more complexity to the experience of motherhood, and Nicole’s tender and nuanced approach to parenting a child who doesn’t fit into gender norms.

Nicole Graev Lipson's Five Books:

1. The Chosen by Chaim Potok

2. I and Thou by Martin Buber

3. Of Woman Born: Motherhood as Experience and Institution by Adrienne Rich

4. Wolfish: Wolf, Self, and the Stories We Tell About Fear by Erica Berry

5. Mothers and Other Fictional Characters by Nicole Graev Lipson

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