Joel and Travis talk a bit of an overview of Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morality, with a little bit of Joel hinting that Travis doesn't care about people, and Travis hinting that we are perhaps all sociopaths. At least if the materialist evolutionists are right about us, and Nietzsche is right about materialistic evolution. That's a lot of "ifs", but you can't spell Friedrich Nietzsche without "ifs".