In the latest edition of the Nuggets Ink podcast, deputy sports editor Matt Schubert is joined by sports reporter Parker Gabriel after the Nuggets lost a pair of games in Phoenix to even up their Western Conference semifinal series at 2-2. Among the topics discussed:

+ With Nuggets beat writer Mike Singer out on newborn baby duty, Matt and Parker break down a classic Game 4 in what's already been a fantastic four-game series.

+ Somehow, the biggest story to come out of Game 4 wasn't even what happened on the court. Instead, much of the focus was on an incident involving Nuggets center Nikola Jokic and Suns owner Matt Ishbia that saw the two make contact with each other and Jokic get assessed a technical foul. What happened? What was the tenor postgame? And who's ultimately to blame for what happened courtside?

+ On the court, Jokic submitted an all-time masterpiece with 53 points and 11 assists, but it wasn't enough to overcome the dual brilliance of Devin Booker and Kevin Durant combined with better bench production from the Suns. What can the Nuggets do to slow down the Suns' stars?

+ Four games into the series, a clear theme is emerging: The home team's reserves have played better than their road counterparts each game. Is that something to expect going forward? Which team is more likely to steal a game on the road?