<p>This week, Drew and Michael unpack the latest tariff relief and what it means for DTC operators, break down Zuck's vision for Meta as a fully automated ad platform, and explore the tension between brand and performance marketing. Plus, a deep dive into Aviator Nation's remarkable rise—from Venice Beach to Forbes' richest list.</p>

This week, Drew and Michael unpack the latest tariff relief and what it means for DTC operators, break down Zuck's vision for Meta as a fully automated ad platform, and explore the tension between brand and performance marketing. Plus, a deep dive into Aviator Nation's remarkable rise—from Venice Beach to Forbes' richest list.

NM Live: Touchland's Big Exit, Meta's Future, and What Brands Can Learn from Aviator Nation

The Nerd Marketing Ecommerce Podcast is a series of conversations about growing an ecommerce business. It's by CEOs and CMOs for CEOs and CMOs. Ecommerce veterans and 20-year operators Drew Sanocki and Michael Epstein deliver clear, actionable, data-driven strategies.

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NM Live: Touchland's Big Exit, Meta's Future, and What Brands Can Learn from Aviator Nation

NM Live: Touchland's Big Exit, Meta's Future, and What Brands Can Learn from Aviator Nation