<p>In this episode I Interview Bob Matatall.  Bob is an Urban Planner, an avid traveler, and the long time best friend of my Step Dad Chris Belting. In this episode we talk about the joys of slow travel, art and design, surviving cancer, and so much more.</p>

In this episode I Interview Bob Matatall. Bob is an Urban Planner, an avid traveler, and the long time best friend of my Step Dad Chris Belting. In this episode we talk about the joys of slow travel, art and design, surviving cancer, and so much more.

<p>In this episode I Interview Bob Matatall.&nbsp; Bob is an Urban Planner, an avid traveler, and the long time best friend of my Step Dad Chris Belting. In this episode we talk about the joys of slow travel, art and design, surviving cancer, and so much more.</p>

No. 106 - Bob Matatall

"Making It" is a podcast about how artists and creatives turn their passion into a profession. 

Hosted by San Diego-based muralist Taylor Gallegos, each episode features honest conversations with working creatives about how they built careers doing what they love. 

On this podcast, “making it” doesn’t mean going viral, cashing out, or becoming a household name.
It means finding alignment between who you are, what you create, and how you live.

No hype, no formulas—just real talk, practical advice, and inspiration for anyone trying to "make it" as an artist.

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"Making It" is a podcast about how artists and creatives turn their passion into a profession. Hosted by San Diego-based muralist Taylor Gallegos, each episode features honest conversations with working creatives about how they built careers doing what they love. On this podcast, “making it” doesn’t mean going viral, cashing out, or becoming a household name. It means finding alignment between who you are, what you create, and how you live. No hype, no formulas—just real talk, practical advice, and inspiration for anyone trying to "make it" as an artist.

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