If there's a heaven for border collies, it may very well be Drummond Ranch in Vincent, Calif., located less than an hour from L.A. On the 40-acre spread, dogs and their people learn the fine art of sheepherding, often strengthening their own relationship in the process. Joining the Petcasters today is Janna Duncan, co-founder of the San Fernando Valley Herding Association and a licensed herding judge for the American Kennel Club, among other organizations. Also, Steve discusses visiting his mom's dog, Poppy, and Mom visiting his dogs, Black and Jack.

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