🚒 What happens when you have to build an entire fire department from scratch — policies, people, and leadership included?

In this episode, I sit down with Lt. Dave Olson of Carroll County Fire and Rescue in Maryland, to talk about what it really takes to launch a new career fire service inside a combination system. From hiring 68 people in one day, to developing command structure, training, and culture from the ground up, this conversation exposes what leadership looks like when there's no playbook.

🔥 Topics include: - Leading through chaos when there are no policies yet - Building trust between volunteers and new career staff - Getting buy-in from the line and the boardroom - Training, expectations, and accountability in a brand-new system - Why attention to detail (even hose lines) builds culture and pride

💬 "No one handed us a plan. We had to build it — one mistake, one lesson, one win at a time."

This is leadership under construction — the real firehouse version.

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