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Build faster. Spend less. Keep control.
In this episode of the Growth Department podcast, Chelsey and no-code expert Xan Hong, founder of Drive Phase Consulting, reveal how founders ship MVPs in weeks, connect tools with APIs, and launch AI agents that act like real team members.
You’ll hear how Xan built his first app to track an ice cream truck with his daughter and how that moment turned into a thriving consulting business helping founders create software without a single line of code. He shares how to think about vendor lock, when to use no-code for internal tools, and where AI fits into the next wave of innovation.
About the Guest
Xan Hong is the founder of Drive Phase Consulting, where he helps companies turn their ideas into real products with no-code tools like Bubble.io, WeWeb, Xano, and Go High Level. As one of the first 100 certified Bubble developers globally, Xan blends technical expertise with practical business strategy to help founders move from concept to launch with speed and confidence.
What you’ll learn in this episode
- How to validate and ship an MVP in a fraction of the time
- When to replace a SaaS tool and when to extend it with APIs
- The real cost math for bringing software in-house with no-code
- Security basics that protect your data and your users
- Where AI-generated code helps and where AI agents create leverage
You can find Xan here:
Website: https://www.drivephase.co
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drivephaseco
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drivephaseco/
PLUS! If you want to test an outbound sales agent, you can submit your contact info here to test the outbound agent and the agent will call you: https://marketing.drivephase.co/ai-agent-demo.
Current functionality- schedule an appointment, reschedule an existing appointment, and cancel an existing appointment, questions about Drive Phase Consulting, and then a default agent just takes information to get back to person if relevant.
If you found enjoyed this episode, please consider sharing with a friend and leaving a review so others can find us!
Each week, we interview founders, business leaders, and experts in their field about how to grow a business and the personal growth that comes with the journey. #LetsGrow !
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Build faster. Spend less. Keep control.
In this episode of the Growth Department podcast, Chelsey and no-code expert Xan Hong, founder of Drive Phase Consulting, reveal how founders ship MVPs in weeks, connect tools with APIs, and launch AI agents that act like real team members.
You’ll hear how Xan built his first app to track an ice cream truck with his daughter and how that moment turned into a thriving consulting business helping founders create software without a single line of code. He shares how to think about vendor lock, when to use no-code for internal tools, and where AI fits into the next wave of innovation.
About the Guest
Xan Hong is the founder of Drive Phase Consulting, where he helps companies turn their ideas into real products with no-code tools like Bubble.io, WeWeb, Xano, and Go High Level. As one of the first 100 certified Bubble developers globally, Xan blends technical expertise with practical business strategy to help founders move from concept to launch with speed and confidence.
What you’ll learn in this episode
- How to validate and ship an MVP in a fraction of the time
- When to replace a SaaS tool and when to extend it with APIs
- The real cost math for bringing software in-house with no-code
- Security basics that protect your data and your users
- Where AI-generated code helps and where AI agents create leverage
You can find Xan here:
Website: https://www.drivephase.co
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drivephaseco
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drivephaseco/
PLUS! If you want to test an outbound sales agent, you can submit your contact info here to test the outbound agent and the agent will call you: https://marketing.drivephase.co/ai-agent-demo.
Current functionality- schedule an appointment, reschedule an existing appointment, and cancel an existing appointment, questions about Drive Phase Consulting, and then a default agent just takes information to get back to person if relevant.
If you found enjoyed this episode, please consider sharing with a friend and leaving a review so others can find us!
Each week, we interview founders, business leaders, and experts in their field about how to grow a business and the personal growth that comes with the journey. #LetsGrow !
Want to stay in the know with all-things Growth Department?
Here's where you can stay in touch:
Website | LinkedIn | TikTok | Instagram | YouTube | X