In this episode of Chasing Elephants, Jeff sits down with LifeWay Students Specialist Chad Higgins to talk about the newly released book Define the Relationship: Growing a Parent Ministry that Brings Families and Churches Together, co-written by Higgins and Zac Workun. This conversation goes beyond strategy, it explores the heart of why the church must redefine how it partners with parents.

Jeff and Chad dive into research-based insights showing that parents are ready for more, more connection, more guidance, more collaboration with the church. But often, leaders don't know how to initiate or sustain that relationship.