The No Natural Talent Podcast

No Natural Talent Ep. 35 "Jacen" part 2


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As a head coach at System Jiujitsu in Meridian, Idaho, he brings structure, intention and a unique way to think about training to the mats. Join us as he dives deep into the art of disagreement, how to use AI as a training tool, and his past health habits and how that has shaped his present self. 

This is Jacen.  

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The No Natural Talent PodcastBy Shanti Johnson