Before the careers and credentials, John, Greg, and Rich were learning discipline and service in quieter ways.
In this episode of Raw and Refined, they reflect on their high school years (1984–1986), when they balanced sports, academics, and service work—from fast food and tutoring to student journalism and yearbook production.
Framed by a biblical reflection on quiet service, the conversation explores humility, unseen work, race, and how early experiences shaped the men and leaders they would later become.