Raw and Refined: The Gentlemen’s Hour

No Trumpets: Service Before the Titles


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Before the careers and credentials, John, Greg, and Rich were learning discipline and service in quieter ways.

In this episode of Raw and Refined, they reflect on their high school years (1984–1986), when they balanced sports, academics, and service work—from fast food and tutoring to student journalism and yearbook production.

Framed by a biblical reflection on quiet service, the conversation explores humility, unseen work, race, and how early experiences shaped the men and leaders they would later become.
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Raw and Refined: The Gentlemen’s HourBy Card, Holloway and Kelley