It’s obvious that to have a podcast about Donald Trump, I needed to interview someone who has written extensively about Donald Trump. I was drawn to Gwenda Blair because she has not only written about Trump, but about both his father and his grandfather. The deep knowledge of what formed him made her a very appealing source to interview.

Because of the way the podcast came to be, much of our conversation was left on the cutting room floor. I’m excited to finally get a chance to share our full conversation.

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