This week, Ira spoke with Joseph McBride, author (along with Michael Wilmington) of "John Ford," the revised and expanded edition, published by University Press of Kentucky. In this cinematic episode of “Ira’s Everything Bagel,” Joseph talks about why he thinks John Ford is the closest thing we have to a national poet; how Ford developed his craft beginning with theater as a kid and then directing silent films; why Ford knew “what the earth is made of”; his talent for framing; why he rarely moved the camera, but had the action take place within the “proscenium arch”; the one-hour meeting that he (Joseph) had with Ford that was on the same day the director announced his retirement; and why his films matter, both in subject matter and in visual importance.