Jared Yates Sexton is a professor and political analyst whose latest book American Rule: How a Nation Conquered the World but Failed its People takes on some of the big foundational myths of American history, viewing them through the lens of an increasingly dark, apocalyptic 21st century. In this conversation, we talk about the toxic stew of capitalism, racism, power, and domination that have shaped the nation from its beginning, and discuss how capital's power to absorb its resistance makes neoliberal products out of social and political movements, from #MeToo to Black Lives Matter.