What happens when a self-proclaimed "proud non-lawyer" takes the reins of a law firm? In this lively episode of The Mostly Legal Podcast, Rob and Amanda sit down with John Bowers, CEO of Thompson Burton, to explore how leadership, transparency, and empathy are reshaping the future of law firm operations.

John brings his signature mix of candor and humor as he shares:

• Why he embraces the term "non-lawyer" 
• How a fully transparent, formulaic compensation model drives growth and accountability at his firm
• His bold take on the role of CEOs and business leaders in law
• The powerful story behind the #LovedJenny movement and his fight to expand mental health support for all legal professionals

Whether you're a legal administrator, law firm leader, or passionate advocate for change in the profession, this episode will leave you inspired, informed, and maybe even a little fired up. Don’t miss it!