Betsy and Kailey discuss kidless vs kidfree terminology to provide a common ground. We elaborate into how we both identify and the differences in our journeys. We shine light on some of the judgements each group faces with the hopes of educating and providing understanding. We also look at the good and highlight the perks of being without kids. You have a choice. You are worthy. Like, share, and follow us on IG @notchamommapod and tag us in the meditation challenge with the hashtag #movementmedicine. DM any gentle corrections or email us at [email protected]. Anchor listeners - leave us voice messages at https://anchor.fm/notchamommapod/message. ‘Kidless and Lovin’ It!’ by Kaye D. Walters. Maki Moussavi is an amazing transformational coach and author. She can be found at https://www.makimoussavi.com. Follow her on IG @makimoussavi. Trigger warning suicide is discussed. If you need help, please contact the National Suicide Prevention line at 800-273-8255.