Join us this episode as we chat with Jessie Mannisto, Director of Debates at Braver Angels and former CIA Intelligence Analyst. We discuss her journey to Braver Angels, the unique aspects of their debates, and the challenges of facilitating tough conversations. Jessie shares memorable moments of surprising insights between participants, explores blind spots in American politics, and highlights Gen Z's role in bridging divides. She also reflects on her experience at the CIA and its influence on her current work, touching on media bias, polarization as a national security concern, and the future of the Braver Angels Debate Program. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone interested in political dialogue and understanding different perspectives.