<p>Richie, Rob, and I talk about race. It's honest, awkward, and challenging, everything a good conversation about race should be. </p>

Richie, Rob, and I talk about race. It's honest, awkward, and challenging, everything a good conversation about race should be.

Not So Black and White

What does it mean to walk the way of Jesus in the world today? Whether I'm interviewing a media mogul, a stay at home mom, or a restauranteur, this is the central question of our conversation. I believe to follow Jesus is a verb; it takes practice. I hope each episode prompts you to rethink something and renews your courage to follow the most remarkable person I know. Thanks for letting me in on your journey.

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