Welcome to Modern Minds, hosted by Mark Henick. This is a limited series podcast brought to you by the Hartford Healthcare Behavioural Health Network. Every month, Mark talks with a range of innovative and creative guests, who are all at the forefront of the mental health revolution. Today, Mark speaks with Hartford Hospital chief of psychiatry Dr. Javeed Sukhera, NAMI Chief Medical Officer Dr. Ken Duckworth, and New York Times essayist Emi Nietfeld. They discuss the inclusion of lived experience in co-designing treatment and recovery programs. Bryan Spyros also checks in with Dr. Karen Kangas. All agree that there can be nothing about us, without us.