Josh Mogerman from the Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) joins Mike, Lisa Albrecht and Sarah Batka to talk about the lack of regulation of the burgeoning hydraulic fracturing (fracking) industry in Illinois. Much of the sand used in that process is mined in Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa and Illinois. Mike talks to a Phil and Diane Gassman, who live in what has become Ground Zero for frac sand mining in Utica, Illinois.