In this episode, host Jim Jordan chats with April van Buren, from Madison East High School in Madison, Wisconsin. April was named an NSPA Pioneer in 2022, NSPA awards to journalism educators who make substantial contributions to high school journalism programs and scholastic journalism education outside their primary employment. They discuss April’s journey as an educator, how she finds success at the scholastic journalism programs she instructs, and they even sneak in a quick side conversation about roller derby.