Troy Bassham interviews Heather Bassham Sumlin the Director of Customer Relations for Mental Management Systems and a Master Level Instructor specializing in subjective graded competitive areas like Pageantry, Stage Performance, Gymnastics, etc. In this interview she talks about how she started working for Mental Management Systems and some advice for those who are competing in subjective graded areas. To learn more about our Patreon membership and to gain more insight from Heather, Troy and Lanny please check out: https://www.patreon.com/with_winning_in_mind We just posted a continuation of this interview on our Patreon channel for our Silver and Gold level members where Heather explains how she handles the evaluation phase of a competition with her pageant clients and how to help them handle rejection when they do not succeed. For coaching details call 972-899-9640 or email [email protected] www.mentalmanagement.com for products and more information.