As we find ourselves in the period of holiday parties you may be considering how much alcohol you're consuming. We're also approaching a month that can be referred to as Dry January, which is supported by an international campaign that promotes a self-imposed break from alcohol. Does that mean wine lovers have to put aside their beloved nectar of the Gods? Not necessarily. A good option will be discussed on today's episode that takes me into San Francisco. My guest is Catherine Diao, wine lover and co-founder of Null Wines.

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