John and Eric catch up with NY Giants great Carl Banks. The two discuss Carl's career, his connection to George Perles (MSU head coach) and what made him tick. Carl shares a story about Perles bringing in former Steelers great Jack Ham, who spent time with Carl on playing with leverage and what it means to play LB, lessons Carl carried with him into his pro career.Eric shares a number of video highlights of Carl playing in the 1986 post season and what it means to "SET THE EDGE" on defense. Carl shares his thoughts on those dominant Giants defenses and what it meant to play across from LT.The guys talk about the 1984 season and how in many ways it mirrors the 2025 season, including a big 10 LB being selected #3 overall by the Giants. From there Carl talks about Abdul Carter, his chance to be part of a new legacy for the Giants defense (while being mindful of the past) and the fact that some guys are just different (talent, skill, intensity wise) and Carter is one of those guys.Please Like, comment and of course subscribe!