In this episode of Bringing Hope and Freedom, Pastor Kirk and Holly unpack a powerful and often misunderstood topic — obedience. Holly shares her personal story of growing up in a broken home marked by alcoholism and confusion — and how for years she believed obedience to God meant losing joy or becoming restricted. But through encountering Jesus, she discovered the opposite: real obedience is not control — it’s freedom, healing, and a new heart. Pastor Kirk explains the difference between compliance (do what I say or else) and true biblical obedience (a desire birthed from love). They also explore:

• Why many people unknowingly live in spiritual bondage thinking it’s freedom
• The impact of generational brokenness and stepping away from toxic environments
• How God doesn’t need to control you — He wants to heal you
• The beauty of God giving you a new heart, new desires, and new life
• Obedience as a get-to, not a have-to

If you’ve ever wrestled with shame, control, religion, or feeling “not good enough for God” — this conversation will bring clarity, compassion, and real hope.

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