John John and Jon got together in the backyard to talk about 2 of John's favorite surfboard models, the Ghost and the Shadow. Filmed for JJF's YouTube channel ( youtu.be/HBQNJois85I )this is a longer audio version of the conversation. In this episode they talk about the very first Ghost John rode (and won Margret River comp on), the design characteristics of both the Ghost and the Shadow, what fins do and which fins JJF like to use in different boards and different waves, plus answer questions picked from John's Instagram! Please enjoy our Objects of Obsession with them.