In this episode of FMEP's Occupied Thoughts podcast, FMEP fellow Ahmed Moor speaks with Sawsan Zaher, an independent Palestinian human rights lawyer based in Haifa [full bio below]. Their conversation includes:

- The background of Israel's recently-passed Death Penalty law

- The way in which the Israeli judiciary supports the regime there

- The role of the Supreme Court, incl whether it may strike down the law, and how the Court has evolved in the past twenty five years

Full bio:

Sawsan Zaher is an independent Palestinian human rights lawyer based in Haifa. She serves as a legal advisor for several Palestinian human rights and feminist organizations, specializing in both Israeli domestic law and International law. Sawsan has extensive experience in constitutional strategic litigation on behalf of Palestinians before Israeli courts; notably, she recently represented the Palestinian Authority in a constitutional petition before the Israeli Supreme Court regarding the freezing of Palestinian tax revenues. She also serves as a co-supervisor at the human rights clinic in Tel Aviv University.

Since October 2023, Sawsan has focused her practice on representing Palestinian citizens in cases of political persecution. She is a frequent public speaker on Israel's violations of international law, specifically examining how the Israeli genocide of Gaza is supported by the Israeli constitutional and legal regime.

Previously, Sawsan served as the Deputy General Director and Senior Lawyer at Adalah, where she practiced for 16 years. Her work has earned her prestigious global recognition, including fellowships as a World Economic Forum Young Global Leader, a Yale World Fellow, and a Public Interest Law Fellow at Columbia University.

In this episode of Occupied Thoughts, FMEP Fellow Peter Beinart speaks with Mara Kronenfeld, Executive Director of UNRWA USA. They discuss the role of UNRWA (the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East) in the lives of Palestinian refugees in Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon and especially in the West Bank and Gaza. UNRWA has 12,000 staff on the ground in Gaza now and continues to offer essential humanitarian support as well as schooling, despite attacks from Israel, which has destroyed more than 90% of UNRWA schools, refused to allow UNRWA-designated aid into Gaza and refuses to permit international UNRWA staff from entering Gaza and the West Bank, and the challenge of lost funding from many funder states including the United States. Peter and Mara discuss the content and success of UNRWA schooling, including addressing the accusations of antisemitism in UNRWA curricula, as well as the unsubstantiated allegations that some UNRWA staff participated in the October 7th, 2023 attacks inside of Israel. Finally, they discuss the enormous growth in funding support for UNRWA via UNRWA USA, which has sent $83 million dollars of raised funds to Gaza over the past 2.5 years.

For more on UNRWA and UNRWA USA, see Israel has crushed Unrwa in Gaza – and the rest of the world has done nothing by Phillipe Lazzarini in The Guardian 3/21/26 and UNRWA is Still In Gaza by Mara Kronenfeld in December 2025 in the Washington Post (an UNRWA USA ad and op-ed). 

Mara Kronenfeld is the Executive Director of UNRWA USA, where she leads the strategic vision, operations, and fundraising efforts of the nonprofit organization that supports the humanitarian and human development work of the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) in the Middle East. With over 20 years of experience in international development, Mara is a Fulbright Scholar and an expert in designing, implementing, and leading public private partnerships supporting youth development programming in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA).

Peter Beinart is a Non-Resident Fellow at the Foundation for Middle East Peace. He is also a Professor of Journalism and Political Science at the City University of New York, a Contributing opinion writer at the New York Times, an Editor-at-Large at Jewish Currents, and an MSNOW Political Commentator. His newest book (published 2025) is Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza: A Reckoning. He publishes regularly on https://peterbeinart.substack.com/.

Original music by Jalal Yaquoub.

In this episode of Occupied Thoughts, FMEP Fellow Ahmed Moor speaks with David Velasco, the former editor-in-chief of the art magazine Artforum. Ahmed and David discuss David's decision in October 2023 to publish a letter from cultural workers in support of Palestinian liberation and an immediate ceasefire in Gaza and in opposition to violence against all civilians, regardless of identity. David was fired following the publication of that letter. Ahmed and David discuss the concept of solidarity in the art world, the role of money in culture, and how they understand voluntary complicity and capitulation in the early stages of genocide. 

David Velasco is an American writer and editor. He was the editor-in-chief of the art magazine Artforum from 2017 to 2023. He is the editor of Modern Dance, a 2017 series of books on contemporary choreographers published by the Museum of Modern Art, New York. In December 2025, he published an essay in Equator entitled "How Gaza Broke the Art World" about being fired from Artforum in the wake of October 7th. 

Ahmed Moor is a Palestinian-American writer born in Gaza and a Fellow at FMEP. He is an advisory board member of the US Campaign for Palestinian rights, co-editor of After Zionism (Saqi Books) and is currently writing a book about Palestine. He also currently serves on the board of the Independence Media Foundation. His work has been published in The Guardian, The London Review of Books, The Nation, and elsewhere. He earned a BA at the University of Pennsylvania and an MPP at Harvard University. You can follow Ahmed on Substack at: https://ahmedmoor.substack.com. 

Original music by Jalal Yaquoub.

FMEP non resident fellow Peter Beinart is joined by Sari Bashi (Executive Director, Public Committee Against Torture in Israeli) to discuss the dismissal of charges against five Israeli soldiers who were filmed violently abusing and raping Palestinian detainees in the Sde Teiman facility - as well as the torture of Palestinians in Israeli custody more generally.

For resources please visit: https://fmep.org/resource/sde-teiman-permission-to-rape/

Music by Jalal Yaqoub

In this episode of Occupied Thoughts, FMEP Fellow Ahmed Moor speaks with analyst Annelle Sheline about the history of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), which includes Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. They discuss the state of the American "security umbrella" from the perspective of leadership in Qatar and Saudi Arabia and the perspective that American military bases are liabilities. They also look at prospects for greater regional integration due to greater insecurity.  

See this brief by Annelle Sheline: "Are Qatar and Saudi Arabia Reassessing Their Reliance on the US?" (Quincy Institute, 2/26/26)

Annelle Sheline, Ph.D., is a research fellow in the Quincy Institute's Middle East program. She previously served as a Foreign Affairs Officer at the U.S. Department of State’s Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor’s Office of Near Eastern Affairs (DRL/NEA), before resigning in March 2024 in protest over the Biden administration’s unconditional support for Israeli military operations in Gaza. Annelle is completing a book manuscript on religious authority in the Middle East, focused on the countries of Jordan, Morocco, Oman, and Saudi Arabia. She is a senior non-resident fellow at the Arab Center of Washington DC, a non-resident fellow at Rice University’s Baker Institute for Public Policy, and an adjunct faculty member at Georgetown University. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from George Washington University. Listen to additional conversations she's held with FMEP: "Jordan, the Gulf, and American Policy in Palestine" (November 2025) and "RESIGNED: The Former Biden Admin Officials Who Left Their Jobs Over Gaza" (April 2024). 

Ahmed Moor is a Palestinian-American writer born in Gaza and a Fellow at FMEP. He is an advisory board member of the US Campaign for Palestinian rights, co-editor of After Zionism (Saqi Books) and is currently writing a book about Palestine. He also currently serves on the board of the Independence Media Foundation. His work has been published in The Guardian, The London Review of Books, The Nation, and elsewhere. He earned a BA at the University of Pennsylvania and an MPP at Harvard University. You can follow Ahmed on Substack at: https://ahmedmoor.substack.com. 

Original music by Jalal Yaquoub.

In this episode of Occupied Thoughts, FMEP President Lara Friedman speaks with Ramallah-based Palestinian journalist/analyst/commentator Nour Odeh. Nour is an independent media professional and communications consultant with 20 years of experience as a distinguished journalist. In 2012, Ms. Odeh became Palestine’s first female government spokesperson and she served in various capacities as a senior communications and public diplomacy advisor to the Palestinian leadership. She writes opinion and analysis in English and Arabic and is a regular guest in international news outlets.

In this far-ranging conversation, Lara and Nour discuss the situation in the West Bank today; trends in West Bank settler and IDF terror and ethnic cleansing dating from before 10/7/23, escalating through 2.5 years of genocide, and now escalating again during the Israeli-U.S. war on Iran; the situation in Jerusalem and the Harm al-Sharif; the implementation of Israel's Gaza playbook in Lebanon and Iran; the role of the international community; the state of Palestinian domestic politics and the national movement for Palestinian rights and self-determination; and how all of this is playing out with respect to grassroots attitudes and activism around the globe.

In this episode of Occupied Thoughts, FMEP Fellow Ahmed Moor speaks with Ben Rhodes, former Deputy National Security Advisor to President Obama, about the US & Israel's attack on Iran and the subsequent war. They look at the role that Israel is playing in American decisions around this war as well as the relationship that Zionism and other ideologies and points of view play or can play in American foreign policy decision-making more broadly. They also address Ben's new essay in the NYRB, "An American Reckoning," looking at the idea of American exceptionalism, the need for and absence of accountability in American wars, and the ways that American coercive behavior overseas -- including narratives, technology, tactics, and even equipment -- is currently being deployed on the domestic population of the US.

Ben Rhodes is a writer, political commentator, and national security analyst. He is the author of the New York Times bestsellers After the Fall: Being American in the World We’ve Made, and The World As It Is: A Memoir of the Obama White House. He is currently co-host of Pod Save the World; a contributor for MS NOW; a senior advisor to former President Barack Obama; and chair of National Security Action, which he co-founded with Jake Sullivan in 2018. From 2009-2017, Ben served as a speechwriter and Deputy National Security Advisor to President Obama.

Ahmed Moor is a Palestinian-American writer born in Gaza and a Fellow at FMEP. He is an advisory board member of the US Campaign for Palestinian rights, co-editor of After Zionism (Saqi Books) and is currently writing a book about Palestine. He also currently serves on the board of the Independence Media Foundation. His work has been published in The Guardian, The London Review of Books, The Nation, and elsewhere. He earned a BA at the University of Pennsylvania and an MPP at Harvard University. You can follow Ahmed on Substack.

Original music by Jalal Yaquoub.

In this episode of Occupied Thoughts, FMEP President Lara Friedman speaks with author and scholar Dr. Nathan J. Brown about his recent article, For Younger Palestinians, Crisis Has Become a Way of Life.

-Dr. Brown's bio: https://carnegieendowment.org/people/nathan-j-brown

-the article: https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2026/02/youth-palestine-west-bank-crisis

In this episode of Occupied Thoughts, FMEP Fellow Ahmed Moor speaks with University of Maryland Professor Dr. Shibley Telhami and FMEP President Lara Friedman. The three discuss the new US & Israeli war against Iran, the strategic changes in the Persian Gulf and the polling data in the U.S. demonstrating a lack of support for the war. They discuss the fate of the Abraham Accords and normalization more broadly. They also discuss the role and politics of Israel in the U.S. now, including recent polling data and the impact on current and future leadership. 

See Dr. Telhami's most recent poll, "Do Americans Favor Attacking Iran Under the Current Circumstances? The Latest Critical Issues Poll Findings," conducted in early February 2026, before the U.S. & Israel launched the recent war.

Dr. Shibley Telhami is the Anwar Sadat Professor for Peace and Development, Distinguished Scholar-Teacher, and the Director of the University of Maryland Critical Issues Poll. He is also Nonresident Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution.

Lara Friedman is FMEP’s president.

Ahmed Moor is a Palestinian-American writer born in Gaza and a Fellow at FMEP.

Original music by Jalal Yaquob.

FMEP Non-resident Fellow Peter Beinart interviews researcher and journalist Dr. Sophia Goodfriend on the pernicious flow of repressive surveillance technology between the U.S. and Israel, which is now being seen deployed by Israel in Gaza and by ICE in the U.S.. Goodfriend recently published,"ICE operations increasingly resemble Israeli occupation. That’s no coincidence" in +972 Magazine where she takes a deep dive into this issue.

For resources, please visit: https://fmep.org/resource/ice-gaza-the-flow-of-surveillance-technology-to-fuel-repression/

Music by Jalal Yaqoub