In this "sheep-adjacent" episode, we're diving into the some of the ways in which we relate to and communicate with animals. You'll meet Pony Jacobson - a white, queer and trans sheep shearer - who shares stories of training his border collie herding dog and working and living in conservative rural spaces. And you'll meet Penelope Logue - a white, queer and trans rancher - who talks about raising alpaca on a queer and trans haven and active ranch, her relationship with her kiddo who's also trans, and more!

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This is part two of three episodes dedicated to sheep and the queer and trans humans who love them! Learn more about this project at www.countryqueers.com and sign up to become a sustaining supporter of Country Queers on Patreon to help us produce our 2nd Season (coming Fall 2021!)

Find the folks you heard in this episode on our instagram page and at their websites: Pony Jacobson at www.sugarfieldfarm.com and Penelope Logue at www.tenaciousunicornranch.com

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In this episode, we're asking folks who have additional funds, to please donate in support of Medicine Bowl - a land-based strategy for liberation based in the mountains of North Carolina. "Medicine Bowl's mission is to transition back into right relationship with the universe, the planet, and one another. We believe that land-based strategies offer the most wholistic pathways towards the liberation of BIPOC folks in our lifetime." Earlier this year they were able to secure 142 acres of land in western NC. Additional donations will support expanding housing, farming infrastructure, sacred spaces for spiritual work, and so much more. " You can donate on Venmo @kifu-faruq or on their website at medicinebowl.org.

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Host & Producer: Rae Garringer

Editorial Advisory Dream Team: Hermelinda Cortés, Lewis Raven Wallace, and Sharon P. Holland

Music in this episode: Composed and performed on acoustic and electric guitar by Tommy Anderson

Special thanks to Dan and his sheep in southern WV for ambient farm sounds heard throughout this episode. And to Kenny Bilbrey for editorial feedback!