Oftentimes we look at the saints and think, 'I could never be like them...I'm simply not that good'. I know I do, and if you admit it, you do too. However, that line of thought is so far from the truth. Meg Hunter-Kilmer joins me this week to discuss extraordinarily ordinary saints and how their struggles can help us deal with our own. Get her book Pray for Us: 75 Saints Who Sinned, Suffered, and Struggled on Their Way to Holiness here.