This one has the feel of two Spurs fans sitting in the wreckage, having moved past fury and into that strange, grimly funny stage of acceptance.

Stuart and Ash talk through the possibility of life in the Championship, what a genuine club reset might involve, and whether the pain might finally force the changes Tottenham have avoided for years. There’s still room for lineup chat, transfer frustration, Xavi Simmons love, and scepticism over Roberto De Zerbi — but the mood here is less meltdown, more gallows humour with a side of reluctant peace.