This episode features Tom Fisher who was Senior Vice President of Commercial Affairs for Unocal before retiring in 2004. During his career he had an instrumental role in commercializing the gas markets of Indonesia and Thailand, among many other achievements.

He's a Reservoir Engineer by training, like myself, and we get into the engineering weeds a little bit at the start of the interview but stick with it as he has some great insights in the second half of the conversation.

Notably he reflects from retirement on what defines success and you might be surprised by his answer.

We finish up our chat with the importance of having fun and what Tom believes is the biggest problem America faces today.

Check out the show notes at www.crudeconversations.com for details on everything we cover in our conversation.