At 19, Oliver Dauert faced a choice: marine biology or business school. He chose business - not to walk away from nature, but to learn the tools that could actually protect it.

Now, as founder of Wildya, Oliver helps eco-preneurs become "impact millionaires" - measuring success not in dollars, but in how much their business helps nature thrive. In this conversation, we explore what five weeks in the South African bush taught him about awareness, why business leaders get more attention than scientists (and what that means for conservation), and the most common mistakes eco-preneurs make when seeking funding.

We also dig into why some conservation arguments fail while others succeed, what historical wins teach us about our capacity for change, and Oliver's surprisingly simple advice for taking that first step.