Welcome to the first mini-sode of the Life, Leadership, and Laughs podcast!

On this inaugural episode, I talked with Emma Hildebrand about dialogue and the concept of "thinking gray" as written by Steven Sample author of The Contrarian's Guide to Leadership. Emma is a junior political science student and member of the James and Sybil Stockdale Fellows Leadership program at Monmouth College.

We talk about the binary thinking that we sometimes trap ourselves into and how to escape that kind of thinking by practicing the art of thinking gray. We talk about the implications that can have for the practice of leadership and having effective dialogue with other people.

You can check out the commercial i reference at the end of the show here.

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Special thanks to Emma for being on the show.

Music by Camilo GP - Master Service on Fiverr.com

Art by Sumon on Fiverr.com