In this episode Natasha has a conversation with Dr. Heidi Smith, who is... many things! She is programme directer for the Outdoor Environmental Education master's programme at the University of Edinburgh, lecturer, mentor, leadership researcher and practitioner.  In this episode, we talk about her research on Leadership, and how her insights might be applied beyond Outdoor Environmental Education. 

Thank you as always to Emiko, the talented artist behind our intro and outro music.

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