For our latest conversation, “ON OPTIMISM & THE FUTURE”, we chat with designer and architecture student of @harvardgsd, Jeremy Benson. In our conversation, Jeremy reflects on what has changed for him during the pandemic and how it has caused the removal of “white space”, a concept he breaks down in the podcast. He also shares insight on how institutions, architecture and space are complicit in myths of normalcy which uphold racist systems. Jeremy also presents ideas of what the “new” institution should look like in an increasingly digital world.