<div>Lucy speaks to Jill Rutter about the psychology of economics, the competing narratives around the Autumn Statement and whether Jeremy Hunt is listening to voters or Tory MPs.</div>

Lucy speaks to Jill Rutter about the psychology of economics, the competing narratives around the Autumn Statement and whether Jeremy Hunt is listening to voters or Tory MPs.

On the Couch: Jill Rutter

Welcome to On the Couch, a new political podcast from Reaction and broadcaster and psychotherapist Lucy Beresford. In each episode, Lucy is joined by a special guest to take a deep dive into the relationships making the headlines in politics today and explore the psychology of so much in political life.

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On the Couch: Jill Rutter

On the Couch: Jill Rutter