Welcome to episode 60 of The Grace Cafe Podcast. We're finally back in the podcast booth following our most recent road trip and recovering from a fresh bout with sickness. We recap some of our trip and a couple of conversations we had along the way. We also broach these new topics:

• The Brene Brown Netflix Special.
• Fear and engineering smallness.
• Be careful quoting church fathers (we don't need another hero).
• Hebrews 3 and an introduction to Moses.

And more! Push play and give it a listen! Slide over to iTunes and leave us a review.