Step into the world of Army Drill Sergeants with this raw and real conversation that pulls no punches. In this episode of the Backbone Leader Exchange, SGT Cashe and SSG Jones go beyond the hat to explore the emotional, mental, and leadership challenges that shape the NCOs who shape the Army. From family sacrifice to mental resilience, legacy, and hard-earned wisdom, this episode is a must-listen for anyone who wears, or aspires to wear, the round brown. Whether you're leading trainees, supporting a DS, or reflecting on your own trail experience, this conversation will leave you informed, inspired, and ready to lead with purpose.