Inside America's Best Cities, An Economic Development Podcast

One Message, Two Audiences: Tying Talent Attraction to Tourism


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For six years, Minnesota lost more residents than it gained. To reverse it, the state's tourism office made a bet: the same things that get people to visit can get them to stay.

In this episode, Lauren Bennett McGinty shares how Explore Minnesota expanded into talent attraction and why tourism offices are uniquely positioned to sell people on relocating, not just visiting.

We dig into the "halo effect" that turns a great visit into a relocation, how her team targeted entirely unexpected markets by focusing on high-demand career fields, and the messy challenge of measuring when a visitor becomes a resident.

She also breaks down the "Come Visit Your Neighbors" campaign, which was born out of a difficult news cycle, and makes the case for first-person storytelling as the best way to stand out when so many places are selling the same things.

Resources Mentioned:

  • Explore Minnesota Website

  • Moving to Minnesota

  • Come Visit Your Neighbors Campaign Video

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00:00 Introduction

02:38 Overview of Minnesota's offerings for visitors and residents

05:19 How Explore Minnesota combined tourism and talent attraction

08:10 Where tourism and talent goals don't align as neatly

12:22 The challenge of tracking visitor-to-resident conversion

15:18 Targeting specific high-demand career fields

18:57 The "Come Visit Your Neighbors" campaign

22:49 What her craft beer background brought to the role

25:31 How to stand out when other places share similar amenities

28:33 Film as a tourism and economic driver

30:23 Fun closing question

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At Livability, we highlight the nation's most vibrant small and mid-sized cities as a trusted voice for communities across America. We help places attract talent and reach target companies through digital content and print magazine programs.

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Inside America's Best Cities is produced by SpeakEasy Productions.

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