Today, Bill Hamilton is Elspeth’s host, finding out a lot about her, from her careers in children’s librarianship, children’s book editor, author, and her enjoyment of art.

We discover that she has got kicked out of a religious programme in BBC Leicester, a long time ago, (déjà vu!) and waited many many years until the right husband came along.

Miraculous healing comes into her story, and also the 500 pre-school pupils from St Albans who, at the peak of her “Young Music Makers” business, came in 37 different groups for a number of years. And she’ll never give up living life to the full, if she can help it!