Dave and Joel discuss doing church in a pandemic. Churches can, in their very physical presence, resist the drift towards non-places – places that cultivate weak ties and treat persons as fungible. Buildings and bodies matter. But now we are all forced online.  Church has become a Zoom meeting. Ministers are online personalities. Frenetic activity is the norm.  What problems does this pose? What pathologies of church life does this potentially heighten?  Dramatic sighs abound in this episode. We really just want some Eucharistic.