Josh mentions his trip to Idylwilde and gives a Kitty and Louis (the ghosts In his apartment) update. They turned on his Quip! Josh Is joined by very famous witch Pam Grossman of the Witch Wave and her book "Waking the Witch: Reflections on Women, Magic, and Power." They discuss the shadow side of woo-woo wish-fulfillment phenomena like The Secret, annoying things within the witchy/witch/Pagan community, the representation of witches In popular media like Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, to hex or not to hex, smudging and sage, Josh's spell backfired, what it was like for Pam to work on the remake of The Craft, Wicca vs Traditional Witchcraft, the word witch Itself, Pam's chart (she's an Aquarius), and a quick little tarot reading.

https://witchwavepodcast.com/

https://www.pamgrossman.com/writing