Area 51, the most secretive facility in the US, became the most famous due to the claims of Bob Lazar. He said he worked at a lab near Area 51 where he saw crashed alien spacecraft and was told about alien beings. However, the full story of Lazar and his checkered past has not been fully told. In this episode, I tackle this wild tale of a man who has some serious credibility issues.


UFO Articles covered in this episode:

Rep. Eric Burlison, David Grusch & AARO walk into a SCIF... (w/ updates on Elizondo, FBI hearing this week, et.)https://www.askapoluaps.com/p/burlison-grusch-aaro-elizondo-fbi-walk-into-bar?r=1ij7cx&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

Ask a Pol UAP Update: https://substack.com/chat/1755497/post/e112cd1f-9696-45aa-8db9-e1e29cf74e31?utm_source=share

New AARO Unresolved Case: https://x.com/DoD_AARO

Other links referenced in this episode:

Corbell on Lazar lies: https://x.com/timtest88474756/status/1881022968157073756?s=46

Knapp on Lazar education credentials: https://x.com/ddeanjohnson/status/1752734905379746153

Other HandLazar Timeline: https://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/bluefire-main/bluefire/the-bob-lazar-corner/the-lazar-timeline/

Papoose Lake Institute Lazar Timeline: https://www.papooselake.org/the-updated-bob-lazar-timeline

Lazar marriage certificates: https://www.papooselake.org/documents/marriage-certificates

Dennis Dominic Passaro info: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/93614167/dennis-dominic-passaro

Bob Lazar: Shadows - 1st wife background: https://medium.com/@signalsintelligence/bob-lazar-shadows-f045a2be1d9c

Book: Dreamland: An Autobiography https://amzn.to/4j47Kww

Lazar bankruptcy docs: https://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/bob-lazar-bankruptcy-documents-july-11-1986-feb-25-1987pdf/252201312

Bob Lazar: Red Flags: https://medium.com/@signalsintelligence/bob-lazar-red-flags-d0a481d35d8e

Carol Nadine Lazar Death Police Report: https://www.scribd.com/document/534077948/Carol-Nadine-Lazar-Death-Police-Report-Bob-Lazar

Carol Nadine Lazar Coroner's Report: https://www.scribd.com/document/534078281/Carol-Nadine-Lazar-Coroner-s-report-Bob-Lazar

Bob Lazar Calendar: https://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Lazar_19.pdf

John Lear tells all: https://projectcamelotportal.com/2008/05/02/john-lear-tells-all-part-2-of-4/

Pandering Case (Brothel) Affidavits: https://www.papooselake.org/documents/pandering-case-affidavits

Pandering Case (Brothel) Pre-Sentencing Report: https://www.papooselake.org/documents/pandering-case-pre-sentencing-report

Robert Bigelow clears the air about Bob Lazar: https://www.mysterywire.com/area-51/bigelow-lazar/

Believing Bob Lazar — Part II — A Consistent Story?: https://medium.com/@signalsintelligence/believing-bob-lazar-part-ii-a-consistent-story-7ada441955ba

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Enigma #312486
2025 Apr 21 • 8:11:00 PM GMT+1
Rossendale, England, United Kingdom
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/312486


Enigma #294118
2024 May 31 • 11:06:00 PM MST
Oro Valley, Arizona, United States
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/294118

Enigma #313276
2025 May 7 • 10:59:08 PM PDT
Northridge, California, United States
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/313276

Enigma #313406
2025 May 10 • 9:38:00 PM EDT
New York, New York, United States
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/313406

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Jason McClellan was the original co-host of Open Minds UFO News with Alejandro for over a decade. In this episode, we review recent UFO news while reminiscing about the past and taking a critical look at the current UFO research landscape, including recent bombastic claims.

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Enigma #312700
2024 Oct 24 • 9:52:00 AM GMT+2
Monreale, Palermo, Italy
Link to video and report: https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/312700


Enigma #312305
2025 Apr 15 • 8:55:00 PM EDT
Columbia, Maryland, United States
Link to video and report: https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/312305


Enigma #312486
2025 Apr 21 • 8:11:00 PM GMT+1
Rossendale, England, United Kingdom
Link to video and report: https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/312486


Articles discussed in this episode:

National Archives Releases UAP Records: https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2025/nr25-07

Are snaps taken by mechanic in 1953 the best 'UFOs' ever caught on camera? - Daily Express: https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/680711/Are-snaps-taken-by-mechanic-in-1953-the-best-UFOs-ever-caught-on-camera

3 ways scientists use math to help debunk UFO videos - PBS: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/3-ways-scientists-use-math-to-help-debunk-ufo-videos

SCU Announcement on the AARO Investigation of the Aguadilla Video - SCU: https://www.explorescu.org/post/scu-announcement-on-the-aaro-investigation-of-the-aguadilla-video

Federal government report on UFOs is expected to be made public by June - Ottawa Citizen: https://ottawacitizen.com/public-service/defence-watch/new-report-canada-ufo-sightings


Enigma’s Canada Sightings: https://enigmalabs.io/explore/ca

New details on canceled UAP SCIF briefing: “Grusch could not make it” - Ask a Pol UAP: https://www.askapoluaps.com/p/luna-dni-tulsi-gabbard-point-on-uaps

John Greenewald’s X posts on Grusch:
https://x.com/blackvaultcom/status/1917413459542864024https://x.com/blackvaultcom/status/1917568826121806005

Grusch’s false congressional testimony: https://x.com/openmindstv/status/1786575546236682672

Immaculate Constellation - UFO Whistleblower Goes Public : WEAPONIZED : Episode #74 : PART 1: https://youtu.be/ZAxI-LDrDqA?si=HP7MDQ8QPE0Ea___

Kirkpatrick response to Brown claim: https://x.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1917364704948937064

Grusch 2018 Schriever War Game connection: https://x.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1917643355531665816

2018 Shreiver War Game info: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1kb1f3k/comment/mps0mb7/

Weekly World News Soviet aliens article: https://weeklyworldnews.com/aliens/183093/russians-shoot-down-ufo/

Declassified Cold War-era CIA files detail Soviet clash with aliens who witnesses say turned soldiers to stone - New York Post: https://nypost.com/2025/04/13/world-news/declassified-cold-war-era-cia-files-detail-soviet-clash-with-aliens-who-witnesses-say-turned-soldiers-to-stone/

CIA document doesn't prove aliens turned Soviet soldiers to stone — and it was never classified - Snopes: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/soviet-soldiers-cia-aliens/

Immaculate Deception on IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4083652/

AARO’s Mt. Etna Object Case Resolution: https://www.aaro.mil/UAP-Cases/UAP-Case-Resolution-Reports/

AARO preview of 2017 Taqaddum Air Base report on X: https://x.com/DoD_AARO/status/1917294137188995106

UAP Disclosure Fund post on new “UFO” video: https://x.com/UAPDF/status/1918006945887236115

UFO is actually irrigation circles: https://x.com/MiddleOfMayhem/status/1918029375968296966 https://x.com/MickWest/status/1918018307237789803

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In this episode we discuss the state of UAP research and the best path forward. We also cover the latest UAP headlines and look at some recent UAP videos.

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UFO Articles covered in this episode:Exploring expert figures in alien-related UFO conspiracy theories - Nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-025-04799-8

NBC News covers the new Tic-Tac video captured off the coast of San Diego: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1jv3pvz/nbc_news_covers_the_new_tictac_video_captured_off/

Infrared AI Camera Proposed to Scan Earth's Skies For Signs of Alien Visitors - Science Alert: https://www.sciencealert.com/infrared-ai-camera-proposed-to-scan-earths-skies-for-signs-of-alien-visitors

UFOs in space? Is it possible to launch a flying saucer into space and return it to Earth? - Universe Magazine: https://universemagazine.com/en/ufos-in-space-is-it-possible-to-launch-a-flying-saucer-into-space-and-return-it-to-earth/

Scientists hail ‘strongest evidence’ so far for life beyond our solar system - The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/apr/17/scientists-hail-strongest-evidence-so-far-for-life-beyond-our-solar-system

Is this a hint of life on another world, or just a lot of hot air? - NPR: https://www.npr.org/2025/04/16/nx-s1-5364805/signs-life-alien-planet-biosignatures-exoplanet

Enigma Reports reviewed on this episode:

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Enigma #312247
2025 Apr 16 • 4:15:00 AM CDT
Arlington, Texas, United States
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/312247

Enigma #288405
2022 Jul 3 • 10:16:00 PM EDT
Ellwood, Pennsylvaniahttps://enigmalabs.io/sighting/288405

Enigma #307482
2025 Jan 11 • 6:50:00 PM EST
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/307482

Enigma #311849
2025 Apr 8 • 12:06:40 AM CDT
Jones, Oklahoma, United States
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/311849 

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SpaceX is deploying satellites at an unprecedented rate and using newly developed technology to do it. From lift-off to deployment to orbit, SpaceX satellites and rocket stages are producing spectacular views. It is no wonder even pilots are mystified by what they are looking at. In this video, I review many of the amazing UFO videos submitted to the Enigma Labs app that have turned out to be SpaceX-related.

Enigma Labs reports included in this report:
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/294750
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/291275
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/290701
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/289632
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/292463
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/295187
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/294125
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/294232

Enigma Labs website: https://enigmalabs.io/

Enhancing Space Situational Awareness to Mitigate Risk: A Single-Case Study in the Misidentification of a Recently-Launched Starlink Satellite Train as a UAP in Commercial Aviation: https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.08155

Articles referenced: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13392685/UFO-captured-flying-California-Utah-Nevada-Arizona-states-surrounded-hazy-light-disappearing-without-sound.html

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In this episode, we interview Brandon Fugal, owner of Skinwalker Ranch in Utah. The ranch is the focus of years of paranormal research and the History Channel show The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.

The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch Season 5 finale Tuesday, July 23rd, 2024 on The History Channel!

The Official Skinwalker Ranch website: https://skinwalker-ranch.com

Enigma Labs: 

Best Enigma UFO Videos for Roswell Daily Record: https://youtu.be/eQSSKrP4jr0

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In this episode we discuss UAP Analysis and Science with Dr. Doug Buettner, Deputy Chief Scientist at the Acquisition Innovation Research Center (AIRC). Dr. Buettner has recently joined the board of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies and has been analyzing cases, including the NYC case we recently reviewed on this show. We also cover recent UAP headlines and look at a couple Enigma UFO sighting reports.

Enigma UFO Sightings Dr. Buettner’s bio: https://acqirc.org/airc-appoints-new-deputy-chief-scientist/

Dr. Buettner’s recent paper: Enhancing Space Situational Awareness to Mitigate Risk: A Single-Case Study in the Misidentification of a Recently-Launched Starlink Satellite Train as a UAP in Commercial Aviation: https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.08155

Website of the Coalition for UAP Studies: https://www.explorescu.org

UAP Discovery: https://uapdiscovery.org

ENIGMA LABS UAP VIDEO ANALYSIS 

Link to Enigma Labs UAPs:
Known object: https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/287218
Possibly identified object: https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/294125

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Links to articles and info discussed:

• ‘Dyson spheres’ were theorized as a way to detect alien life. Scientists say they’ve found potential evidence – CNN
• Did UFOs deactivate US missiles, collect vital information on nuclear arsenals and ICBMs? What did Pentagon mandarins say? – The Economic Times
• Recent SCU UAP and Nuclear Weapons papers
• Aviation Safety and Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Discussed at the European Parliament – The Debrief
• UFOs May Be Evidence Of “Cryptoterrestrials” Secretly Living Among Us – IFL Science
• Two British friends took this UFO picture then vanished after a visit from sinister men in dark suits. Breaking his silence after 34 years, their old colleague now reveals what happened and says: ‘They were not meant to see it’ – Daily Mail
• The disappearance of the UK’s “most spectacular” UFO photo – Open Minds UFO News
• UFO investigation launched in Japan after U.S. report designates region as “hotspot” for sightings – CBS
• Aviation Bureau Official: No UFOs Reported in Past 5 years – The Japan News
• What’s next for AARO? – Douglas Dean Johnson on Mirador
• AARO on X
• Matt Laslo on Sen. Gillibrand and UAP on X
• Mike Garcia on his UAP amendments on X
• The Real Government Conspiracy Isn’t About UFOs – Bloomberg
• Book: After the Flying Saucers Came – Oxford Press

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In this episode we cover the latest news including the passing of Dr. Bruce Maccabee, UAP and Congress news, an interview on ball lightning with Dr. Karl Stephan, and we look at more UAP videos from Enigma Labs.

Read more about Dr. Stephan’s work

ENIGMA LABS UAP VIDEO ANALYSIS

Link to Enigma Labs UAPs:
Known object: https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/290972
Possibly identified object: https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/282353

Link to our Twitter Spaces on the La Guardia NYC UAP case: 
https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1gqxvQVQZmOJB/peek

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Links to articles and info discussed:

Dr. Bruce Maccabee bioEnglin AFB UAP Report – AARO

Taylor Swift UFO Video

Records Related to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs) at the National Archives

U.S. intelligence officials wanted to meet with Transport Canada’s UFO ‘lead’ – CTV News

UAP Transparency ActFull interview with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand on Israel, border security & UFOs

ENERGY SECRETARY GRANHOLM: NO ALIENS, JUST DRONES

ENERGY SEC. GRANHOLM: “I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE” OF UAP REVERSE-ENGINEERING

Department of Energy: National Nuclear Security Administration UFO Files

Enigma Labs launches state UFO sighting webpages – Roswell Daily Record

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On today’s episode we discuss the latest UAP news, including updates from congress and former AARO chief Sean Kirkpatrick. We also discuss journalist Sarah Scoles’ experience coving UFOs over the last few years.

Sarah Scoles’ website

Link to our upcoming Twitter Spaces on the La Guardia NYC UAP case: https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1gqxvQVQZmOJB/peek

Link to Enigma Labs UAPs:
Known object: https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/288257

Possibly identified objects: 
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/292420
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/292468 
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/292426
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/292417
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/292436
https://enigmalabs.io/sighting/292462

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Report your sighting to Enigma here

Feedback: [email protected] 

Links to articles and info discussed: 

The UFO Files: Nine never-before-seen videos of craft flying over California, Utah, Nevada and Arizona are revealed by researchers – Daily Mail

‘I don’t see any evidence of aliens.’ SpaceX’s Elon Musk says Starlink satellites have never dodged UFOs – Space.com 

Eglin UAP sighting was commercial light balloon – News Nation

AARO Englin AFB UAP Report – AARO

Effect of Forced Perspective and Parallax View on UAP Observations – AARO

EXCLUSIVE — Sen. Gillibrand’s informed AARO: “I’d like to have a public hearing this summer” – Ask a Pol

Pentagon UFO Hunter Reveals What He Knows About Aliens – NY Post

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In today’s episode: We talk to John Greenewald, founder of The Black Vault. For decades John has been using FOIA to get formerly classified documents from the government. Recently he received documents showing the correspondence between the DoD and alleged UFO whistleblower David Grusch. Grusch has claimed, including on the record during a congressional hearing, that DoD’s AARO UAP program has not reached out to him. New documents may show otherwise. We also cover the latest UFO/UAP News and look at a couple weird videos from the Enigma app. The Black Vault WebsiteFOIA Documents Reveal AARO’s Authorized and Repeated Attempts to Engage with David Grusch Link to Enigma Labs UAPs: Known ObjectUnidentified ObjectDownload the FREE Enigma app hereReport your sighting to Enigma here Feedback: [email protected] Subscribe to the Podcast: https://openmindsuapnews.podbean.com/ Links to articles and info discussed:

• SETI chief says US has no evidence for alien technology. ‘And we never have’
• Rep. Robert Garcia on AARO SCIF briefing
• UAP Caucus Co-Chairs Luna & Burchett (& Ogles) post-SCIF briefing “nothing burger”
• Rep. Eric Burlison: “My skepticism was probably more validated” in AARO SCIF briefing
• Steven Spielberg Returning To Sci-Fi For New Original UFO Movie
• History and Origin of KONA BLUE
• KONA BLUE proposal
• July 26, 2023: Hearing on UAP before the subcommittee on national security, the border, and foreign affairs of the committee on oversight and accountability transcript
• AARO Director Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick Holds an Off-Camera Media Roundtable

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In today’s episode: We talk to Brett Tingley, Managing Editor at Space.com who has covered UAP as a journalist on other outlets such as Scientific American, The War Zone, Popular Science, the History Channel, Science Discovery, and The Debrief. We also cover the latest UFO/UAP News and look at a couple weird videos from the Enigma app. PLUS…ENIGMA LABS UAP VIDEO ANALYSIS: Link to Enigma Labs UAPs: Known objectMore curious objectDownload the FREE Enigma app hereReport your sighting to Enigma here Feedback: [email protected] Brett Tingley on Space.com: https://www.space.com/author/brett-tingley Subscribe to the Podcast: https://openmindsuapnews.podbean.com/ Links to articles and info discussed:

• SCU Conference
• UAP: Reporting and scientific assessment in the EU. Exchange of views in the European Parliament
• A Century of Observations from VASCO | Beatriz Villarroel at SCU’s AAPC 2023 (Talk + Q&A)
• Portland Community College Offers New Class on UFOs
• Beneath the Surface: We May Learn More about UAP by Looking in the Ocean
• Forget the Skies, the U.S. Military Is Looking for UFOs Below the Waves
• The New Scientific Revolution of Anomalous Phenomena | Tim Gallaudet at SCU’s AAPC 2023 (Talk + Q&A)
• He quit heading the Pentagon’s UFO office. Now a report of his has shaken up ufology
• UK UFO sightings mapped: Nearly 2,000 unexplained objects spotted in our skies in last four years
• ‘UFO visits’ near key nuclear installations in Tamil Nadu baffle experts
• What UFO Cultists Can Teach Us About Political Paranoia Today
• A new religion has Americans looking to the stars
• UFOs: Close Encounters of the National Security Kind
• If ‘the truth is out there’ about UAPs, Eric Burlison wants to know

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