Orcas vs Great White Sharks is more than a dramatic headline—it's a sign of how ocean ecosystems are shifting before our eyes. New drone footage shows orcas in the Gulf of California attacking and killing juvenile great white sharks in what scientists believe are nursery zones. The footage, captured in 2020 and 2022, reveals orcas flipping young sharks onto their backs, inducing tonic immobility, and surgically removing their livers—a precise and efficient hunting technique that may reshape predator-prey dynamics.

For years, scientists have known about great white shark nurseries, but what defines a "true nursery" has always been debated. These new observations raise deeper questions: Are orcas expanding their hunting grounds, or are juvenile sharks moving into new, warmer waters due to climate change? If orcas continue targeting young sharks, could this affect the recovery and stability of great white populations across the Pacific? In this episode, Andrew explores the science, the controversy, and what these interactions mean for the future of ocean conservation.

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