This was first broadcast July 6th 2025, on MainFM in Castlemaine, Victoria. 

In this episode of the show, Sam sits down with Tim (frontman for You Am I, Hard-Ons, and North Melbourne tragic), about what we can learn about dadding and parenting from the 1980 Best Picture Oscar winner, Ordinary People. Using the trials and tribulations of Calvin and family as their jumping off point, the dads chat about grief, worrying about our kids, and dadding while in the public eye.

Don't come expecting definitive answers or paths to parenting greatness. This is just two ordinary, imperfect dads getting real and having a chat.

It should be (extra)ordinary.

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