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KPIs…OKRs…WTF?! 🤯
Organisational goal setting sounds simple - until you try it. Most teams end up with vague goals, confusion and zero connection to what people do day to day.
So where does it go wrong? And how do you fix it?
This episode, we’re joined by Koen Veltman (Organisation Builders, ex-McKinsey), to learn what it really takes to set effective goals - especially in growing teams.
You’ll learn:
Whether you're in HR, People & Culture, ops, or leadership, this episode will help you rethink how your company sets and tracks what matters.
If you enjoyed this episode, please rate us 5 stars and follow the show! It helps us create great new People & Culture content and reach new audiences who might find it helpful 😉
CHAPTERS
Goal setting mistakes
00:00 Why goal setting is hard (Choices)01:15 Today’s guest: Koen Veltman02:12 Defining ”goals” vs purpose, vision etc04:18 Strategic pillars to goals: bridge the gap06:45 Aligning org structure to goals
08:22 Choose your focus > doing it all
Decoding Goal Methodologies
10:30 Why multiple systems can work!
11:48 KPI vs OKR: What’s the difference?
13:28 Goals = communication tool
15:11 OKRs: “Goosebump” objectives
18:42 OKRS: Measurable outcomes
20:50 Creating good Key Results
24:30 OGSM - too vague
25:16 Rocks - keep it simple
27:53 Koen’s favourite goal system?
Intermezzo
29:04 Meaningful vs measurable goals?
Making it practical
30:33 Aligning HR KPIs + company strategy
36:27 Start off simple: Skip OKRs for now?
39:35 Final takeaways
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Organisational goal setting sounds simple - until you try it. Most teams end up with vague goals, confusion and zero connection to what people do day to day.
So where does it go wrong? And how do you fix it?
This episode, we’re joined by Koen Veltman (Organisation Builders, ex-McKinsey), to learn what it really takes to set effective goals - especially in growing teams.
You’ll learn:
Whether you're in HR, People & Culture, ops, or leadership, this episode will help you rethink how your company sets and tracks what matters.
If you enjoyed this episode, please rate us 5 stars and follow the show! It helps us create great new People & Culture content and reach new audiences who might find it helpful 😉
CHAPTERS
Goal setting mistakes
00:00 Why goal setting is hard (Choices)01:15 Today’s guest: Koen Veltman02:12 Defining ”goals” vs purpose, vision etc04:18 Strategic pillars to goals: bridge the gap06:45 Aligning org structure to goals
08:22 Choose your focus > doing it all
Decoding Goal Methodologies
10:30 Why multiple systems can work!
11:48 KPI vs OKR: What’s the difference?
13:28 Goals = communication tool
15:11 OKRs: “Goosebump” objectives
18:42 OKRS: Measurable outcomes
20:50 Creating good Key Results
24:30 OGSM - too vague
25:16 Rocks - keep it simple
27:53 Koen’s favourite goal system?
Intermezzo
29:04 Meaningful vs measurable goals?
Making it practical
30:33 Aligning HR KPIs + company strategy
36:27 Start off simple: Skip OKRs for now?
39:35 Final takeaways