In this episode of Margins, Mary Ellen Slayter and Elena Valentine spoke with Stetson University professor Sven Smith (03:43), Fordham University professor Paul Levinson (10:44) and human rights activist Ben O'Keefe (15:06) on the forces that drive how we organize ourselves as societies and why they can be so difficult to change.

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