Our guest is business advisor, strategic consultant, and style icon Gretchen Jones. Heather and Gretchen go deep on values-driven entrepreneurship, what it means to be truly creative in today's culturally flat landscape, how to break out of the stagnation of late-stage capitalism, and why we should all be embracing "sloppy boobs”. Real wisdom and genuinely thought-provoking ideas from one of the most original thinkers we know!

Read Heather's 2015 interview with Gretchen for Seamwork. https://www.seamwork.com/craft-projects/a-closet-tour-with-gretchen-jones?srsltid=AfmBOooCX6Bd1cdtYrpm3WyOpIZp-NmUeI_LcIhZAdSbm-2Na1_t93Wr

Read Gretchen's essay The Cultural Plateau: https://mailchi.mp/gretchenjones.co/sage-advice-the-noonday-demons-19885062?e=64e3c9a6ee

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