Sleepy and Root interview Ron, (co)owner of Originateve. Who is Ron? What is holistic learning? Education, building community, an interesting shaman, mentor vs teacher, waste, holistic learning systems and the renaissance, and so much more!

If you want to contact Ron, please go through the website: https://originateve.org/.

Also check out Ron's podcats: Origins: Holistic Learning & Regenerative Practice by Originateve https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/originateve

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