A discussion about the Oscars leads to a war strategy discussion about Abraham Lincoln. Naturally. Can movies be still be successful and meaningful? Sean knows the Marvel universe is real. Emily has an opinion about that.
Emily ruins movies for Sean by explaining the Bechdel Test.
They can agree on the fact that "When Harry Met Sally" is great, even though it is a hetero-normative patriarchal film.
Your pre-work for this episode: go look up "cone of empathy."